ATU 1696 ATU 1696

ATU 1696: Alle volksverhalen
- “What Should I Have Said (Done)?”

Een mop (),

Beschrijving

“What Should I Have Said (Done)?” Miscellaneous type. (Including the previous Type 1696A*.) A mother tells her stupid son (man tells his wife) what he should have said (done) in a particular situation. The son follows the advice at the next opportunity, where it turns out to be inappropriate. He is punished (is told again what he should have done or said, and he follows that advice in the wrong circumstances, etc.) For example, the fool congratulates mourners and offers sympathy to a bridal couple [J2461, J2461.2]. Cf. Types 1681A, 1681B, and 1691B.

Motief

J2461

J2461.2

Combinaties

This type is usually combined with one or more other types, esp. 1408, 1642, 1653, 1681B, 1685, and also 571, 574, 1006, 1218, 1240, 1291A, 1291B, 1313, 1384, 1387, 1535, 1539, 1600, 1643, 1655, 1685, 1687, 1691, 1691B, 1693, and 1775.

Oorspronkelijk Verhaaltype

1696

Subgenre

mop

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Identificatie code:	ATU 1696 ATU 1696 ATU 1696: Alle volksverhalen
Subgenre:	mop
Bereik:	Chauvin 1892ff. VV, 155ff. No. 437 Köhler/Bolte 1898ff. I, 87f. Montanus/Bolte 1899, No. 4 Bebel/Wesselski 1907 I, Nos. 26, 27 Wesselski 1911 I, No. 169, II, No. 424 BP I, 315, 524f. BP III, 145–151, 311–322 Pauli/Bolte 1924 II, No. 762 Haavio 1929f. I, 94–224 Schwarzbaum 1968, 91, 461 Marzolph 1987a, No. 72 Dekker et al. 1997, 405–407 Schmidt 1999 EM: “Was hätte ich sagen (tun) sollen?” (in prep.). Finnish: Rausmaa 1982ff. VI, Nos. 343, 344 Finnish-Swedish: Hackman 1917f. II, No. 257 Estonian: Aarne 1918 Livonian: Loorits 1926 Latvian: Ar∼js/Medne 1977 Lithuanian: Kerbelyt 1999ff. II Lappish: Kecskeméti/Paunonen 1974, Bartens 2003, No. 69 Karelian: Kecskeméti/Paunonen 1974 Swedish: Liungman 1961 Norwegian: Hodne 1984, Nos. 1685, 1696 Danish: Grundtvig 1854ff. I, No. 112, Kristensen 1881ff. II, No. 23, III, No. 43, Kristensen 1890, No. 200 Faeroese: Nyman 1984 Icelandic: Sveinsson 1929 Scottish: Baughman 1966, Briggs 1970f. A I, 339f. Irish: Ó Súilleabháin/Christiansen 1963 English: Baughman 1966, Briggs 1970f. A II, 150f. French: Tegethoff 1923 II, Nos. 17, 22a, Soupault 1963, 97ff., Joisten 1971 II, Nos. 120, 150, 151 Spanish: González Sanz 1996 Catalan: Oriol/Pujol 2003 Portuguese: Vasconcellos/Soromenho et al. 1963f. II, Nos. 639, 641, 643, 646, 648, 659, Cardigos (forthcoming), Nos. 1696, 1696C Frisian: Kooi 1984a, Kooi/Schuster 1993, No. 147 Flemish: Meyer 1968, Nos. 1696A, 1696B, cf. Nos. 1696C, 1696D, Meyer/Sinninghe 1976, No. 1696A, Lox 1999b, No. 151 Walloon: Legros 1962 German: Plenzat 1927, Grimm KHM/Uther 1996 I, Nos. 32, 59, II, No. 143 Ladinian: Decurtins 1896ff. II, 112 No. 89, X, 625 No. 12, XIV, 39u. Italian: Cirese/Serafini 1975, No. 1696, and app. Corsican: Massignon 1963, Nos. 16, 32 Sardinian: Cirese/Serafini 1975 Maltese: Mifsud-Chircop 1978 Hungarian: MNK VII C, Nos. 1696, 1696A, Dömötör 2001, 287 Czech: Tille 1929ff. I, 210f., 415ff., 419ff., 430, Klímová 1966, Nos. 80, 81, Dvo⊆ák 1978, No. 4494* Slovakian: Polívka 1923ff. V, 19ff., 25, 31f., Gašparíková 1991f. I, Nos. 246, 300 Slovene: Möderndorfer 1946, 347f. Serbian: Vrevi 1868f. I, No. 173, cf. No. 259, ajkanovi 1929, No. 92, οjorπjevi/Miloševi-οjorπjevi 1988, Nos. 283, 284 Croatian: Boškovi-Stulli 1963, Nos. 94, 95, Gaál/Neweklowsky 1983, No. 50 Bosnian: Krauss/Burr et al. 2002, No. 291 Rumanian: Stroescu 1969 I, Nos. 3013, 3014, 3783 Bulgarian: BFP, Nos. 1696, 1696A Greek: Hallgarten 1929, 148ff., Loukatos 1957, 211f., Megas/Puchner 1998 Polish: Krzy⌠anowski 1962f. II, No. 1696, cf. No. 1697 Russian, Byelorussian, Ukrainian: SUS Turkish: Eberhard/Boratav 1953, Nos. 325 (4–5), 328 (1–8) Jewish: Jason 1988a, Nos. 1681D, 1696, Haboucha 1992, Nos. 1681D, 1696 Gypsy: MNK X 1 Cheremis/Mari, Mordvinian, Votyak: Kecskeméti/Paunonen 1974 Tatar: Radloff 1866ff. VII, No. 1 Siberian: Soboleva 1984 Georgian: Kurdovanidze 2000 Aramaic: Nowak 1969, No. 425 Syrian, Palestinian, Iraqi, Persian Gulf, Kuwaiti, Qatar: El-Shamy 2004 Iranian: Marzolph 1984 Indian: Thompson/Roberts 1960, Jason 1989 Burmese: Kasevi/Osipov 1976, No. 134 Chinese: Ting 1978, Nos. 1696, 1696A, 1696B, 1696D, cf. Nos. 1696, 1696C Indonesian: Vries 1925f. II, No. 93 Japanese: Ikeda 1971, Nos. 1696A, 1696B, cf. No. 1696C, Inada/Ozawa 1977ff. North American Indian: Thompson 1919, 417ff. US-American, French-American, African American: Baughman 1966 Mexican: Robe 1973 Dominican: Flowers 1953 Puerto Rican: Hansen 1957, No. 1696, cf. No. 1690, 1703*A Chilean: Hansen 1957 Argentine: Hansen 1957, Nos. 1696, 1703**D West Indies: Flowers 1953 Egyptian, Libyan, Tunisian, Algerian, Moroccan: El-Shamy 2004 Algerian: Nowak 1969, No. 425 East African: Klipple 1992 Sudanese: Klipple 1992, El-Shamy 2004 Namibian: Schmidt 1989 II, No. 1275 South African: Grobbelaar 1981.
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